Well, and how long has this brute been a god among you ?" "I do not know how long.

From the beginning.

He was always there, as the Motombo was always there, for they are one." "That's a lie any way," I said in English, then went on.

"And who is this Mother of the Holy Flower?
Is she also always there, and does she live in the same place as the ape god ?" "Not so, lord Macumazana.

She dies like other mortals, and is succeeded by one who takes her place.