What he meant was--what he liked was, that they were men--even when they were barbarians.

You couldn't be ashamed of them.

Things they did then could not be done now, because the world was different, but if--well, the kind of men they were might do England a lot of good if they were alive to-day.

They would be different themselves, of course, in one way--but they must be the same men in others.

Perhaps Mr.Penzance (reddening again) understood what he meant.