I never in my life heard Grant talk so freely on any occasion.

I never in my life, but once, saw him apparently so deeply moved.

I said: "Mr.President, you know the story of old Judge Grier and the Pennsylvania jury." "No," said he.

"Well," said I, "there was once a jury in Pennsylvania, when Grier was holding court, who brought in a very unjust verdict.

The judge said: 'Mr.Clerk, record that verdict and enter under it, "Set aside." I will have you to know, Gentlemen of the Jury, that it takes thirteen men in this court to steal a man's farm.' It takes three powers, Mr.President, under our government to pass a law." Grant laughed and said: "Well, if you send it up to me, make it just as bad as you can." There can be no possible question that he then desired and meant to veto the bill.